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clinton is the one incumbent, clinton clearly won that debate. the other incumbent in the modern era, 1976. we've had them every four years since. the incumbents generally lost the first debates. i'm skeptical about the idea incumbent see brings it back. i see other factors in all the races. reagan blanked he was. he was 73 years old and we might have subsequently learned what that was about, you think of clinton and george bush sr. he was a better commuter. bush 2004 against john kerry. kerry was a strong debater. i don't see incumbent see aas a factor in these. >> that's fair. there's a multitude of factors that go into success in debates. the challenger in the first debate seems to perform better. one is the person the word has known for three and a half years as the president, and the other is a person they're geg to know. now this makes them equal. that's enormous and the psychological effect is hard to understatement. >> when i was running for congress, as the challenger it was hard to get the incumbent to debate me at all. that's the case
clinton is the one incumbent, clinton clearly won that debate. the other incumbent in the modern era, 1976. we've had them every four years since. the incumbents generally lost the first debates. i'm skeptical about the idea incumbent see brings it back. i see other factors in all the races. reagan blanked he was. he was 73 years old and we might have subsequently learned what that was about, you think of clinton and george bush sr. he was a better commuter. bush 2004 against john kerry. kerry...
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but word is out across the atlantic that president clinton might be job hunting and if clinton gets a friendly reception in france, he might have to give some hope to another politician who may be looking for a job come november and this guy already speaks the language. >> bon jour. [ speaking foreign language ]. >> keep on polishing up your accent, governor romney. we can practice seeing together. jack, you're a little boring. boring. boring. [ jack ] after lauren broke up with me, i went to the citi private pass page and decided to be...not boring. that's how i met marilyn... giada... really good. yes! [ jack ] ...and alicia. ♪ this girl is on fire [ male announcer ] use any citi card to get the benefits of private pass. more concerts, more events, more experiences. [ jack ] hey, who's boring now? [ male announcer ] get more access with the citi card. [ crowd cheering, mouse clicks ] monarch of marketing analysis. with the ability to improve roi through seo all by cob. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can even
but word is out across the atlantic that president clinton might be job hunting and if clinton gets a friendly reception in france, he might have to give some hope to another politician who may be looking for a job come november and this guy already speaks the language. >> bon jour. [ speaking foreign language ]. >> keep on polishing up your accent, governor romney. we can practice seeing together. jack, you're a little boring. boring. boring. [ jack ] after lauren broke up with me,...
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bill clinton a master of the form. what is the biggest lesson the president has learned from bill clinton's performance at the dnc? >> i think ultimately what president clinton did was crystallize the economic argument and economic choice before us, because we built the economy from the middle class out during the 1990s. you saw where that led us to a government surplus in 23 million jobs created. the republicans in the next decade, did all the same sorts of things that mitt romney would like to do today, passed a tax cut for the wealthiest that led to the lowest pace of job creation since world war ii, stripped back oversight from wall street a financial house of cards that collapsed in 2008. so president clinton made clear this isn't some sort of economic theory, we've tried these policies before and you saw where we ended up. let's pursue those that work. >> ben in terms of the strategy, we were talking about the fact that mitt romney has been trotting out i won't call it stakes, maybe dried pieces of chicken in ter
bill clinton a master of the form. what is the biggest lesson the president has learned from bill clinton's performance at the dnc? >> i think ultimately what president clinton did was crystallize the economic argument and economic choice before us, because we built the economy from the middle class out during the 1990s. you saw where that led us to a government surplus in 23 million jobs created. the republicans in the next decade, did all the same sorts of things that mitt romney would...
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the clinton angle. a lot of ex-clinton people. clinton getting more involved in super pac fund-raising. explain. >> clinton starting to put the arm on some of the big democratic donors. we're starting to see some of these hedge fund guys traditionally given to democrats, liberals, pony up, james simmons founder of renaissance technology. >> clinton did some quiet events up in new york. >> also don't forget ram goes from co-chairman of the campaign during the convention dropping that in order so he can start pushing talking to super pacs and putting heat on them and you start to see that at the convention. may have taken a hiatus during the teachers strike but that will have a big impact. >> should we look at it like if you see this increase, it's the big donors betting? >> i think this trend that you start to see in august we'll see big-time in september when we get numbers. >> great work. excellent way of connecting the dots on these judicial vacancies. just like old times, guess what? newt gingrich has harsh words for the romney
the clinton angle. a lot of ex-clinton people. clinton getting more involved in super pac fund-raising. explain. >> clinton starting to put the arm on some of the big democratic donors. we're starting to see some of these hedge fund guys traditionally given to democrats, liberals, pony up, james simmons founder of renaissance technology. >> clinton did some quiet events up in new york. >> also don't forget ram goes from co-chairman of the campaign during the convention...
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also, when we have seen presidents win re-election, whether bill clinton in 1996 or george w. bush in 2004 that didn't really core late to a lot of shift of house races so it's likely a lot of observers, reports, they think that democrats at best case only pick up in the single digits of house seats, well below the 25 they need. >> thanks so much. we have talked about the latest polls showing president obama opening up leads in three key swing states. we have ohio, pennsylvania, florida but digging deeper in to those numbers, a substantial gender gap in those states. in ohio, president obama has a 25-point lead with women and mitt romney leads by 8 points among men. in pennsylvania, president obama has a 21-point lead among women and romney holds a 1-point lead with men and then in florida president obama a 9-point lead with women and mitt romney leads by 3 points among men. but with all that focus on women, there's an article in politico arguing that white men may be the key in this election. that article is the work of senior political writer louis romano who joins me now. a
also, when we have seen presidents win re-election, whether bill clinton in 1996 or george w. bush in 2004 that didn't really core late to a lot of shift of house races so it's likely a lot of observers, reports, they think that democrats at best case only pick up in the single digits of house seats, well below the 25 they need. >> thanks so much. we have talked about the latest polls showing president obama opening up leads in three key swing states. we have ohio, pennsylvania, florida...
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bill clinton is everywhere. melissa, i saw an e-mail out here. barack obama said after the debate he's meeting up with bill clinton again. who is the running mate, biden or clinton? >> biden is definitely the running mate. look, as the former president and as a former president two terms that the party is willing to put out there. the difference is george b. bush is a two-term president. the republican party does not have george w. bush on the trail, despite the fact that mr. romney has many bush advisers particularly in foreign policy. there's nothing like someone that held that office during good economic times and you put him on the trail. >> it's amazing you how that turn-around in this relationship. what's going through bill clinton's head? >> we can only imagine. don't fill in the blanks. >> shameless plugs. >> we have a good story today about how the problem with mitt romney is actually mitt romney and less about the campaign. >> mitt romney said it himself. >> chris christie best job with his ratings in his term. >> and for my colleague?
bill clinton is everywhere. melissa, i saw an e-mail out here. barack obama said after the debate he's meeting up with bill clinton again. who is the running mate, biden or clinton? >> biden is definitely the running mate. look, as the former president and as a former president two terms that the party is willing to put out there. the difference is george b. bush is a two-term president. the republican party does not have george w. bush on the trail, despite the fact that mr. romney has...
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. >> let's bring in robert reich, former labor secretary under president bill clinton, now a professor at public policy at uc berkeley, and author of "beyond outrage" now available in paperback. mr. reich, good to have you back with us tonight. i want to play another piece from the same 1985 video where mitt romney offers three reasons bain and company decided to create bain capital. here it is. >> three reasons. we recognize that we have the potential to develop a significant and proprietary flow of business opportunities. secondly, we had concepts and experience which would allow us to identify potential value and hidden value in a particular investment candidate, and third, we had the consulting resources and management skills and management resources to become actively involved in the companies we invested in to help them realize their potential value. >> i tell you what, he has the corporate lingo down. we didn't hear one word about creating jobs and we never would under this economic model. do you believe we would? >> no, ed, in fact, creating jobs, ed, at best is a particular pr
. >> let's bring in robert reich, former labor secretary under president bill clinton, now a professor at public policy at uc berkeley, and author of "beyond outrage" now available in paperback. mr. reich, good to have you back with us tonight. i want to play another piece from the same 1985 video where mitt romney offers three reasons bain and company decided to create bain capital. here it is. >> three reasons. we recognize that we have the potential to develop a...
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clinton's dnc speech, 3.95 million went to. romney's 47% video, the lead video, 47%, 3.4 million people went to it cht clint eastwood's speech with the empty chair, 3.2 million. michelle obama's dnc speech, 3.2 million. romney's rnc speech, 1.1 million. >> that's pretty unbelievable chart right there. when you're losing to clint eastwood's empty chair speech by 2.1 million people, that's unreal. >> when you do a video of you talking about 47% by 2.3 million. >> that's unreal. and i think you hit on something very key here, which is when people watch that 47% video, they've been trying to get a sense, who is this man really? he's been all over the board. he was the moderate governor of massachusetts. now he's spouting these tea party talking points. who is he really? and when they saw that video, they said, ah, this is who is he at his core and we don't like it. >> well, krystal ball and dana milbank, thank you for your time and have a good weekend. be sure to check out krystal right here on "the cycle" here at 3:00 p.m. eastern
clinton's dnc speech, 3.95 million went to. romney's 47% video, the lead video, 47%, 3.4 million people went to it cht clint eastwood's speech with the empty chair, 3.2 million. michelle obama's dnc speech, 3.2 million. romney's rnc speech, 1.1 million. >> that's pretty unbelievable chart right there. when you're losing to clint eastwood's empty chair speech by 2.1 million people, that's unreal. >> when you do a video of you talking about 47% by 2.3 million. >> that's unreal....
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last night he had a 75-minute one on one with secretaries of state hillary clinton. today he's scheduled to talk with president obama and governor romney by phone. yesterday the prime minister made this impassioned plea before the u.n. general assembly to stop iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon. that's a chart he used to set his red line to where iran's nuclear program must absolutely be stopped. this country was built by working people. the economy needs manufacturing. machines, tools, people making stuff. companies have to invest in making things. infrastructure, construction, production. we need it now more than ever. chevron's putting more than $8 billion dollars back in the u.s. economy this year. in pipes, cement, steel, jobs, energy. we need to get the wheels turning. i'm proud of that. making real things... for real. ...that make a real difference. ♪ wthe future of our medicare andr electiosocial security. for... a real difference. man 1: i want facts. straight talk. tell me your plan... and what it means for me. woman 2: i'm tired of the negative ads and
last night he had a 75-minute one on one with secretaries of state hillary clinton. today he's scheduled to talk with president obama and governor romney by phone. yesterday the prime minister made this impassioned plea before the u.n. general assembly to stop iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon. that's a chart he used to set his red line to where iran's nuclear program must absolutely be stopped. this country was built by working people. the economy needs manufacturing. machines, tools,...
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clinton. you often hear president obama talking about lincoln, mitt romney talking about ronald reagan, and now "newsweek" is out with a list of the ten best presidents since 1900. sir harold evans who is author of the fabulous, "the american century" has a tribute. it's a ploesh to have you here. >> thank you, madam. >> you gaekted together ten distinguished historians. what was the criteria? >> the criteria was what kind of active presidents were they. it's very interesting. the historians, all -- every single one of them chose franklin roosevelt as number one. >> why? >> best president since theodore roosevelt in the beginning of the century. if you ask them why he did that, he was active and effective, those two things. and he had a sense of america's ideal of itself. so they took those criteria. they didn't know what the others were doing. they all voted and it's interesting the top three -- >> so it wasn't a big sitting around the table and discussing this. >> no, no. it was all in isola
clinton. you often hear president obama talking about lincoln, mitt romney talking about ronald reagan, and now "newsweek" is out with a list of the ten best presidents since 1900. sir harold evans who is author of the fabulous, "the american century" has a tribute. it's a ploesh to have you here. >> thank you, madam. >> you gaekted together ten distinguished historians. what was the criteria? >> the criteria was what kind of active presidents were they....
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back in 1992 clinton was the first democrat to carry new hampshire since 1964. billionaire george soros is donating more than a billion dollars to the super-pac after initially being against super-pacs. soros will donate $500,000 to two other super-pacs supporting democrats. "snl" is at it again. cast member jay farrell channeling obama in last night's primetime election special. >> but things are getting better. remember that movie "the sixth sense"? i'm like the kid in that movie. i see employed people. i know you don't see them, don't even know they're there. one day all of you will be bruce willis, and you'll realize that you were employed all along. >>> time for the your business entrepreneur of the week. andrew is the fourth generation owner of rosenwach tanks. you'll find their handmade wooden water tanks on hundreds of new york city rooftops. today they're shaped by hand with half-century old tools. he says you don't throw out what works. you just build upon it. for more watch "your business" this sunday morning at 7:30 on msnbc. ♪ ♪ ♪ hi dad. many
back in 1992 clinton was the first democrat to carry new hampshire since 1964. billionaire george soros is donating more than a billion dollars to the super-pac after initially being against super-pacs. soros will donate $500,000 to two other super-pacs supporting democrats. "snl" is at it again. cast member jay farrell channeling obama in last night's primetime election special. >> but things are getting better. remember that movie "the sixth sense"? i'm like the kid...
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. >> also on the list, bill clinton, he made that big old splash in the dnc. why was his presidency such a success? >> i think it was him helping the democratic party. helping ending the motion of the a robust welfare state and really modernizing the democratic party and making it more business friendly. >> is there someone who this yale historian decided was the worst president? >> he did not ran rank the worst president of the last 100 years. >> but president obama made that cut, being the most recent. not only even that. i think he was a path breaking president, you look at health care reform. it it it's. >> okay, thank you so much. >> what it takes to prepare to moderate a presidential debate. former abc news news anchor joins us in the next hour with her experience. and the next. there's cash flow options from pnc. solutions to help businesses like yours accelerate receivables, manage payments, and help ensure access to credit. because we know how important cash flow is to reaching your goals. pnc bank. for the achiever in you. there's natural gas under m
. >> also on the list, bill clinton, he made that big old splash in the dnc. why was his presidency such a success? >> i think it was him helping the democratic party. helping ending the motion of the a robust welfare state and really modernizing the democratic party and making it more business friendly. >> is there someone who this yale historian decided was the worst president? >> he did not ran rank the worst president of the last 100 years. >> but president...
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>> well, in terms of obama, the great question the democratic presidents have been asking since clinton is, can you get a non-judge on the court? kagen was not a judge, but her background was judge-like. we were discussing earlier, the court that decided the board of education, one of the justices, not one had been a full time judge before. when alida replaced o'connor, they were all federal court judges. that is a terrible lack of diversity. she knew what it was like to raise money. >> she was a former state legislature. a lot of what comes in front of the court are sta chte statutes. >> for the middle. >> citizens united is a case that talks about giving money to campaigns as if it's a first amendment speech driven process. a politician may say, can i tell you what goes on, why people give money to campaigns? >> yeah. >> i would think, if this president is reelected, because there are so few court of appeals judges who are the right age, he will have to look outside the judiciary, which i agree, is a great thing. it's not only understanding how government works, it's understanding peo
>> well, in terms of obama, the great question the democratic presidents have been asking since clinton is, can you get a non-judge on the court? kagen was not a judge, but her background was judge-like. we were discussing earlier, the court that decided the board of education, one of the justices, not one had been a full time judge before. when alida replaced o'connor, they were all federal court judges. that is a terrible lack of diversity. she knew what it was like to raise money....
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and this is with clinton having been at the convention and ads run. when you ask voters, do you think romney will bring back bush's policies, 45% of voters say that. and this is whith bush not mentioned at all. >> it really is strange, you see the democrats, they trot out bill clinton at every opportunity, he is their party's superstar. and meanwhile, the gop, they hide g.w. in the back room like the crazy lost uncle. it's very odd. how long do you think that continues? >> well, you know, it took richard nixon a long time to come out of hiding. and i'm not sure that he ever came back and spoke at a convention. >> paul glastris, author of "elephant in the room," thank you so much for your time today. it sounds like a fascinating read. full disclosure here, i have only started it. they keep me pretty busy here, paul. hope to get around to the whole thing. >> hope you enjoy it. >> coming up, what beer you drink has to say about your politics. all of a sudden, the folks here on the floor have all perked up. >>> a little bit later, accusations politics in
and this is with clinton having been at the convention and ads run. when you ask voters, do you think romney will bring back bush's policies, 45% of voters say that. and this is whith bush not mentioned at all. >> it really is strange, you see the democrats, they trot out bill clinton at every opportunity, he is their party's superstar. and meanwhile, the gop, they hide g.w. in the back room like the crazy lost uncle. it's very odd. how long do you think that continues? >> well, you...
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bill clinton, lord knows, that's what it was all about with that guy. and this guy, i mean, can't do it at all. by the way, that's also the magic of the tea party movement. >> can't you imagine having some caviar with mitt romney? bellinis? >> with special spoons you have to eat it with. it can't be silver. it's got to be whatever it is. i'm sure mitt romney can tell you all about it. he just can't switch it on. not only that, this is the republican party and conservatism generally has been coasting on this notion, this sort of populist aura that hoverses around them and he's the opposite, you know. he's -- i was reading this great story in "rolling stone" the other day by matt taibbi about how mitt romney is like all of the terrible movie villains of the last 30 years. you know, he's the rich fraternity boy that's such a snob to the guys in animal house, right? you go down the list of movie villains and this is the kind of guy. perfectly, well coifed executives who fire everybody. >> thomas, i'm so grateful to you, but i'm afraid we've run out of time.
bill clinton, lord knows, that's what it was all about with that guy. and this guy, i mean, can't do it at all. by the way, that's also the magic of the tea party movement. >> can't you imagine having some caviar with mitt romney? bellinis? >> with special spoons you have to eat it with. it can't be silver. it's got to be whatever it is. i'm sure mitt romney can tell you all about it. he just can't switch it on. not only that, this is the republican party and conservatism generally...
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and bill clinton tried the approach i'm talking about. we created 23 million new jobs. we went from deficit to surplus. and businesses did very well. >> you know what i hear and i hear it in the president's speeches, he's still working the interest groups rather than selling a national plan. he keeps talking about more teachers. he doesn't necessarily push education he pushes more teachers and he'll refurbish the school buildings. grant it the aft like it maybe your people like it but it isn't a national plan for economic development and tonight they said what's your difference and that's all he could come up with is something about the teachers. where's the national macroeconomic plan to get us out of these doldrums. >> i think he talks about education in a much different way as well. and not just talk about. he's done it. he talked about the "race to the top" tonight. as a former urban school superintendent that's done more to reform schools across the country than anything else the federal government has ever done but there needs to be more than that as well. he's ta
and bill clinton tried the approach i'm talking about. we created 23 million new jobs. we went from deficit to surplus. and businesses did very well. >> you know what i hear and i hear it in the president's speeches, he's still working the interest groups rather than selling a national plan. he keeps talking about more teachers. he doesn't necessarily push education he pushes more teachers and he'll refurbish the school buildings. grant it the aft like it maybe your people like it but it...
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just not be obama, just be a republican, and it's gotten tougher because somehow, maybe because of the clinton speech in charlotte or what economic numbers slightly changing perhaps, you have to make a bigger case than i'm just not obama. >> well, i think that the case which they did at the republican convention in what turned out to be a stray remark, was to think what makes you think the next four years will be better for you than the first four years of an obama presidency? i think that the economy -- you can look at some macrostatistics and say things are better in some ways, but i think there are still people who have a lot of doubt about what's going to happen next. talk to anybody who is doing focus groups now and ask people in groups, what does the president plan to do in another four years? people don't know. and so mitt romney still has an opportunity, i think, to not only say -- >> you can say the same about mitt romney. >> you could, you could, but the president has got a record of four years that a lot of americans aren't happy with. he's not coming close to driving that message.
just not be obama, just be a republican, and it's gotten tougher because somehow, maybe because of the clinton speech in charlotte or what economic numbers slightly changing perhaps, you have to make a bigger case than i'm just not obama. >> well, i think that the case which they did at the republican convention in what turned out to be a stray remark, was to think what makes you think the next four years will be better for you than the first four years of an obama presidency? i think...
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i mean when bill clinton got angry on hillary's behalf, didn't work that well. when teresa heinz told a reporter to shove it, not the best moment. i think that ann romney has been having some of those moments. i actually think that she explained to us better than anybody why the choice for paul ryan, though, when she said early on he's looking for someone he feels comfortable with. >> and that was it. >> and i just think, you know, the whole paul ryan not being utilized correctly, i mean you usually hear that complaint from the vice presidential nominee's camp itself and you're not doing that and i think he actually has been a pretty loyal second and that will help him maintain his brand. >> i do too. i think also the thing that will help him is the thing that alex pointed out before, and we have a been talking about, the distance -- if romney loses conservatives who consider paul ryan their hero are going to say the reason romney lost because he didn't embrace ryan enough. that will allow ryan to maintain his heroic status with that group of intellectuals and a
i mean when bill clinton got angry on hillary's behalf, didn't work that well. when teresa heinz told a reporter to shove it, not the best moment. i think that ann romney has been having some of those moments. i actually think that she explained to us better than anybody why the choice for paul ryan, though, when she said early on he's looking for someone he feels comfortable with. >> and that was it. >> and i just think, you know, the whole paul ryan not being utilized correctly, i...
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bill clinton turned on a dime. we didn't believe in 1994 -- >> i think it was six months of turning. >> yeah. >> but clinton had a huge advantage over obama. clinton had lost the governorship after being the youngest governor in the country. >> he governed in arkansas for ten years. dealt with conservative democrats and a very small republican party. >> the decision to turn came from when he lost in '80 and it was clear to both bill and hillary if they stayed on the hard left they'd be a one-term president as carter had been. the ability to turn goes back to what dee dee just said. being a governor, he and i always could communicate. we had some very tough, brutal fights. but there was some, we both had this compartmentalization that allows us to say okay. that was a really tough press conference. now how do we work this out? >> right. i sense real negotiations require you to listen carefully to the other person. not agree with him but listen carefully. try to figure out is there something we can start building to
bill clinton turned on a dime. we didn't believe in 1994 -- >> i think it was six months of turning. >> yeah. >> but clinton had a huge advantage over obama. clinton had lost the governorship after being the youngest governor in the country. >> he governed in arkansas for ten years. dealt with conservative democrats and a very small republican party. >> the decision to turn came from when he lost in '80 and it was clear to both bill and hillary if they stayed on...
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against hillary clinton he wasn't a great debater. i have to look at tapes of obama as a debater in congressional races and state senate, he wasn't great. he's a speech maker. as a debater, he's never been good at all. laz night he outdid himself. he had so many allies to go down. whether about women. whether about 47%. whether it was about the fuz fuzziness of romney's policy suggestions on taxes. romney's suggestion the auto business bankrupt. he did not show up. he has to next time. the that you're going to see by tuesday is going to be significant in a lot of states. >> and also the swing in attitude. you look at the wall street journal editorial page. the best republican performance since 1980. bill crystal was saying the same thing last night. i was saying the same thing. i said, this is the best i've seen a republican do since 1980. >> in a generation. i've been very critical. bill crystal has been critical. conservatives have been critical. why can't mitt romney connect the dots? last night he did. how important is that -- for
against hillary clinton he wasn't a great debater. i have to look at tapes of obama as a debater in congressional races and state senate, he wasn't great. he's a speech maker. as a debater, he's never been good at all. laz night he outdid himself. he had so many allies to go down. whether about women. whether about 47%. whether it was about the fuz fuzziness of romney's policy suggestions on taxes. romney's suggestion the auto business bankrupt. he did not show up. he has to next time. the that...
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of a clinton monument on the mall. i mean, you know, who would have thunk it? >> didn't he just say that he could run in ireland, and he could also run in france. >> he could run in france because he was born in louisiana. >> that's a true statement. >> ireland's a better fit for him, though, i think. >> although they love him in france. he's a lover. >> we'll move past that. joe, you're just joining us. i want to play a clip for you that we played last hour. mitt romney talking to nbc news yesterday. and now bringing up the massachusetts health care law he championed and helped pass as support for his campaign. >> throughout this campaign as well, we've talked about my record in massachusetts. don't forget, i got everybody in my state insured. 100% of the kids in our state have health insurance. i don't think there's anything that shows more empathy and care about the people of this country than that kind of record. >> joe klein, now coming back and using the health care law that he's avoided for months on end. >> i'm
of a clinton monument on the mall. i mean, you know, who would have thunk it? >> didn't he just say that he could run in ireland, and he could also run in france. >> he could run in france because he was born in louisiana. >> that's a true statement. >> ireland's a better fit for him, though, i think. >> although they love him in france. he's a lover. >> we'll move past that. joe, you're just joining us. i want to play a clip for you that we played last hour....
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we talked to bill clinton, i think, tuesday of last week, newt gingrich of wednesday last week. to hear them talk about each other, couldn't stand about each other. newt gingrich said they could be in negotiations and fight for two hours and bill clinton would always listen, listen for one moment where they could agree on something and then it built out on that. and bill clinton was praising the guy who impeached him and newt gingrich was praising his mortal political enemy because even though they couldn't stand each other at the time, they worked together for america's good. >> you were there in washington and it seemed to me at that time it was to show you got something done. it seems to me now the point of political survival is making sure your opponent gets nothing done, even if it mean use all get nothing done. >> exactly. >> is that -- >> and the depressing thing is -- let's say mitt romney is elected. are dim carats going to work for him? what if barack obama's re-elected? is he going to say, okay, now i'm going to go to simpson-bowles? let's talk about medicare. it's th
we talked to bill clinton, i think, tuesday of last week, newt gingrich of wednesday last week. to hear them talk about each other, couldn't stand about each other. newt gingrich said they could be in negotiations and fight for two hours and bill clinton would always listen, listen for one moment where they could agree on something and then it built out on that. and bill clinton was praising the guy who impeached him and newt gingrich was praising his mortal political enemy because even though...
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. >> and the federal law called the defense of marriage act signed by president clinton. it says the federal government will recognize only conventional marriages, meaning no federal benefits in states where same-sex marriage is already equal. in the court did strike the law down, states would not be required to permit same-sex marriages but the federal government would have to recognize them where they're legal. craig, back to you. >> pete williams in washington. thanks so much for that let's switch gears to indiana and the senate race where things just got lot more interesting. a few months ago, tea party star, richard murdoch, defeated veteran republican senator richard luger. murdoch's campaign was built on framing dick luger as a rhino, a republican in name only. but guess who has gone rhino? you got it, it's murdoch. an apparent attempt to pander to moderate voters by scrapping the ultraconservative label and running toward the center. this includes suddenly coming out in support of parts of the president's health care plan. that's just one of the things. could this
. >> and the federal law called the defense of marriage act signed by president clinton. it says the federal government will recognize only conventional marriages, meaning no federal benefits in states where same-sex marriage is already equal. in the court did strike the law down, states would not be required to permit same-sex marriages but the federal government would have to recognize them where they're legal. craig, back to you. >> pete williams in washington. thanks so much for...
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i think bill clinton was able to say things that barack obama couldn't say. he inherited a mess and making it better. >> when we come back it kraig shirley joins us and michael duffy is here. but first here is a check on the forecast. >>> the weather story this morning has been the fog. it has been very dense around philadelphia and new york city. earlier it wasn't that good over reagan international airport. the delay so far has been limited to philadelphia northwards into the new york city airport. here is our fog advisory. all of the new york saelt and philadelphia. airport delays in newark. la guardia two hours away. those airports have those issues. it will begin to ripple across the country. after the fog lifts it will be a warm day. still a few showers in new england and maybe a stray thunderstorm. the october temperature forecast. we have big changes sweeping through the eastern half of the country. much cooler air starting today in the northwest. the exception is going to be all of the west coast. we are going to stay nice and warm. the bottom line t
i think bill clinton was able to say things that barack obama couldn't say. he inherited a mess and making it better. >> when we come back it kraig shirley joins us and michael duffy is here. but first here is a check on the forecast. >>> the weather story this morning has been the fog. it has been very dense around philadelphia and new york city. earlier it wasn't that good over reagan international airport. the delay so far has been limited to philadelphia northwards into the...
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that's mitt romney at cgi yesterday, the clinton global initiative. that actually was funny. welcome back to "morning joe." mark halperin still with us, pulitzer prize-winning jon meacham joins us on set. you're not going to start selling preorders of your book? >> i don't understand this, against work. she's against work. >> author of the new book, "ike's bluff: president eisenhower's secret battle to save the world." i can't wait. i've already got e-mails from friends saying get me one. >> i read it this summer. it's a great book about a president who is, i think, given the last two presidents we've had, a president whose competence is helping him rise. jon meacham, in the eyes of a lot of historians, looking back at the ike presidency saying, you know, eight years of competence? eight years not only of competence but ruthless efficiency? that wouldn't be a bad thing to have. >> this is one place where i think the scholarly world was a little bit ahead of the public. fred greenstein at princeton 30 years ago did a book called "the hidden hand presidency" which was saying co
that's mitt romney at cgi yesterday, the clinton global initiative. that actually was funny. welcome back to "morning joe." mark halperin still with us, pulitzer prize-winning jon meacham joins us on set. you're not going to start selling preorders of your book? >> i don't understand this, against work. she's against work. >> author of the new book, "ike's bluff: president eisenhower's secret battle to save the world." i can't wait. i've already got e-mails from...